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Just had a really nice phone conversation with Eli Roth. Back in the Cabin Fever days, he was our very first Scary Stud of the Month.

Since then, he's taken a lot of flack (mostly from horror sites) for his success.

I have to say, he was so nice and gave a really nice interview about Inglorious basterds, Thanksgiving, and Endangered Species for us, which I'll be trying to get up ASAP. He hasn't forgotten pretty/scary, which makes me very happy.

Undeserved flack, I say. Some even from me.

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I've always liked Roth. He's held his own.

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I don't have a problem with Roth, but he absolutely ruins this poster.

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He gave Ax Wound a really detailed interview and was very nice to Hannah.

I think people are

A) Jealous of his success and
B) Put off by his voice and/or physical appearance.

"Cabin Fever" was my favorite film the year it was released. I like "Hostel 2" more the more I watch it.

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Jealously is the reason anybody hates anything in this town. Wink

Sometimes Eli Roth comes across as smarmy but I wouldn't say I don't like him. I can just easily see why some might not. I'm a big fan of Cabin Fever but I'll admit, I skipped Hostel 2 because I barely made it through Hostel. Next time Eli, mix up the torture gore with the soft porn early. Girls get bored too, ya know.

I'm looking forward to Inglourious Basterds cuz I'm a QT mark. Pathetic I know, but we all can't be cool people. Btw, I love the IB poster and encourage Heidi to find a way to make Til Schweiger a Scary Stud of the Month! Laughing out loud

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Hellion wrote:

I'm looking forward to Inglourious Basterds cuz I'm a QT mark.

Generally I like his films too. I have hope this will be entertaining!

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Hellion wrote:

I skipped Hostel 2 because I barely made it through Hostel. Next time Eli, mix up the torture gore with the soft porn early. Girls get bored too, ya know.

I liked part 2 better because he seemed to learn from the mistakes he made in the original. The blood bath scene in Hostel 2 is really great stuff.

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I did enjoy Hostel I and II. I am one of the jerks who likes seeing people senselessly tortured in horror movies, as long as the effects are well done.

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Sure, torture I'm good with, especially when I pay to see it, hence, why I get upset when the first half of the movie is boring.

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Okay, Hellion, point taken.

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So, I put Hostel 2 back on my list of movies to watch since you all recommend it. Keeping fingers crossed. Smile

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Hostell II isn't Citizen kane, but if you enjoy large amounts of gratuitous violence and a frat boy sense of humor, it can be a lot of fun.

There are some pretty over-the-top gore scenes, definitely inspired by japanese horror.

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Wow Heidi! It'd be great to remake Citizen Kane as a horror movie! With a few minor changes, Charles Foster Kane could become a thinly veiled caricature of Ruppert Murdoch doing a Hannibal Lecter on the American public.

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I can just imagine the scene in the huge mansion where Marion Davie-er, I mean, 'that woman who was married to Charles Foster Kane, who was not supposed to be a charicature of Marion Davies' is screaming shrilly at Charlie, doing her giant puzzle, and Charlie picking up a fireplace poker and just hitting her over and over again in the head with it until her face is pulp. Then he'd have to bury the body.

They;ve already remade it as a sci-fi movie. Remember CK3K?

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I don't mind Roth or any member of the "Splat Pack." I don't like their movies but that doesn't mean much - I don't like a lot of movies and that's no reason to hold a grudge against the director/writer. Wait, I guess I liked parts of Cabin Fever, like the very end was okay. And the very end of Hostel 2.

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I'm a little late to the party but I adore Eli Roth and I think his movies are some of the most entertaining things out there. Cabin Fever is hilarious and the Hostel movies are brutal and just yummy. I love gore done right. He was way better than he was given credit for in Inglourious Basterds. His character is my second favorite(Shoshanna was the best. Melanie Laurent was just brilliant). I hope to be seeing a lot more of him in the future and he has my vote for Scary Stud of the Year.

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Wink lol not too late to chime in, ever, Zombie Vamp!

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I will say he was great in Inglourious Bastards his part was wonderful. Eli seems like he has great ideas, but just doesn't excute them well, I haven't seen hostel 2, I do like his little anitmation shorts and thanksgiving was great. He isn't such a bad dude, he is a great fan of the genre that's cool he likes pretty-scary.

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One day (years ago) my ex-g/f challenged me to write a short story in ten minutes, and (because I'd watched Hostel 2 the night before) I put E.R. in my story as a main character. In the story, he and the protagonist get into a fistfight on a glass elevator, insulting each other the whole way down. The story was a glass elevator itself, a transparent excuse for me to criticize the mainstream horror industry. But it moved fast, and everyone who read it wanted to ride again.

For lack of anything better to do with the story, I sent it off to a mainstream horror magazine, who wrote me a friendly letter explaining how the editors had spent the morning passing my story around the office, where the general consensus was that my story was pretty much the funniest, coolest thing ever. The letter then went on to explain why there was no way in hell they would ever publish it, and that was the end of that.

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Buahahah that's pretty funny.

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I think Eli Roth gets a lot of undue hate because he breaks into the industry and immediately becomes best friends with one of the greatest directors to ever live. How lucky is that? Seriously, most people spend their entire careers trying to get in good with someone they idolized years prior.

Personally, I'm sure he's a likable guy, and I would love to chat with him about stuff, but his idea of horror and mine are just diametrically opposed. He's all about showing more, I'm in the "less is more" camp.

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he's an interesting guy, that's for sure... and he is very very lucky.

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in all honesty, not keen on his work and didn't think very highly of hostel at all. there are better directors out there, i must say. that is not a personal judgement of the man himself, as i don't know him.

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Personally, I really like Eli Roth. The movies he has directed are good (especially Cabin Fever), and I am really looking forward to Endangered Species! He was one of my favourite characters in Inglorious Basterds, but I didn't even REALIZE that "The Bear Jew" was played by Roth until I put 2 and 2 together later. So as an actor/director/producer, I feel like he keeps moving up my list!

And as for his personality - he's funny and completely blunt, which I love. (Probably because he is just like my best friend. Although I have to say Roth has WAY better taste in movies, because my best friend - who is a guy - loves romantic comedies and chick flicks.) He does what he loves, he's passionate and forward about it, and doesn't really give excuses.

So if anyone has a twitter and isn't following him, it is @EliRoth!

(my first post on the site! before this i've just been reading a LOT.)

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Personally, I get a bit tired of all the hatred poured out on horror boards for both Roth and Rob Zombie. If you don't like their movies, that's fine (Lord knows I haven't liked anything Rob Zombie's filmed). After all, once a work is released to the public, it's open to any and all criticism.

But the personal attacks get a bit out of hand. I don't know if it's the anonymity enabling people to be so hateful or just another sign of the decline of our society. Regardless of the reason, I find it course and distasteful.

Anyway, enough of the ranting. Eil Roth seems like a nice enough fellow. I certainly wouldn't mind talking horror with him over a beer or two.

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Bigmac, I think the anonymity of the Internet allows people to say many many things they would never say either out loud or on paper, let alone directly to the person they are saying it about. It has added a whole other dynamic to communication.

The hardest thing, I think, would be READING all the criticisms if you were Roth or Zombie. Kristen Bell, the actress, once said in an interview she could no longer go to IMDB because on her page there was a forum thread with people arguing about how fat her calves were.

Shit like that has got to be rough.

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Sheesh I could imagine like I go there sometimes and I defend them even though I probably will never meet some of these actresses. I'll defend the heavy set ones like America Ferrera and Nicky Bronkisi (that chick from hairspray) because well picky on fat girls is something I will never put up with just because they aren't size 0 doesn't mean they are less talented or beautiful. Why do I care, but shit like that is horrible to deal with.

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and even someone who epitomizes mainstream beauty ideals, like Kristen bell, is totally picked on.

I don't think there is ANYONE (actress) who doesn't get picked apart for their weight/looks, no matter how undeniably gorgeous they are. Somewhere there is a Victoria's Secret model crying because someone said she has a flabby shoulde rblade, or something.

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Hah you're right I just don't understand that people telling skinny girls that they look fat when they don't. Like that makes no fucking sense what's so ever. People can be just so fucking mean when someone says something mean or like says I'm fat I'll be like "I might be fat I can loose weight, but you still be an asshole. Or like your fucking polo shirt go listen to nickleback"

There was this bitchy girl at the airport when I went to alabama who was like pissed she had to move because I was in the wrong sit and I wanted to tell her "At least I don't look like I stared in hot sluts 4" lol

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Yea, I'm just still surprised at how venomous some people can be. Writing that someone has fat calves? I find it hard to believe that someone would waste their time thinking up such drivel and forcing others to wade through it.

Probably some self esteem issues at play. I can just see the infomercial: "Feel better about yourself by posting cruel things about others on line. It's easy, virtually anonymous and fun!"

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what a great idea for a fake commercial.

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there are some REAL commercials that I wish were fake.

Like the "Potty Patch" for dogs that aren't house trained.
Or the chin exerciser thing. WTF.
Or any of the Burger King or Arby's commercials. Super creepy.

I get more creeped-out by 'normal' people than by any horror movie.

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here are some creepy ads I wish weren't real:

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Those are friggin' awesome. I didn't realize Lysol was so effective in saving so many marriages.

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Well, guess it's time to take responsibility for the wild left turn taken by this thread. Me and my damn "Boost your self esteem by being an ass on the internet" ad.

Sorry about that, Eli. Wink

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Oh please, people bash Eli Roth because they're jealous? Sorry, that just doesn't hold water. It could be because his films suck.

CABIN FEVER is a mess. It's characters have no defining traits (and what little they do, they rotate like they're on a volleyball court halfway through the movie) and the film is all over the place in a bad way. And let's remember him going around bad mouthing WRONG TURN (which blows CABIN FEVER the fuck away...even though it is derivative and cliche' it was effective, especially when it came out amidst the tail end of the WB-teen-horror era)

I didn't like HOSTEL, but at least it was cohesive. HOSTEL II was admittedly a step up, imo. pretty to look at as well.

But, Roth is a much more compelling presence in front of the camera than behind it.

And to give Mr. Roth equal time in the asshole chair that I've just been occupying, here's a story -

A friend was discussing RACE WITH DEVIL with another friend at some con, and Eli Roth comes over, interjects himself in a rude fashion, and snidely corrects him on who is in the film...and is wrong. My pal politely tells Roth "No dude, it IS so-and-so" and Roth kind of guffaws to his cronies and laughs at my pal. Later on, my pal goes up to Roth after having bought a RACE WITH THE DEVIL poster and shows him that it is indeed R.G. Armstrong and not L. Q. Jones, as Roth was insisting, who in the film. So Roth takes the high road (sarcasm) and snidely quips "Oh yeah? Well, uh, how many films have YOU directed?" and storms off.

Not to say I wouldn't get along with him at the end of the day, or that he's a total ass. But man, some of the anecdotes I've heard, and some of the things that have come out of his mouth sure support the argument of him being an egotist. God knows he's privileged, and an opportunist to the n'th degree. He came this close to being another Troy Duffy.

Also, and sorry but I gots ta call 'em how I see 'em, objectifying a male as a "stud" seems a bit hypocritical given the intent (unless my perception is off base, then no harm no foul) behind Pretty-Scary. And who the fuck nominated the annoying midget Dani Filth as a "stud"? Maybe Asshole-Of-The-Month (trust me on this...I slugged it out in metal as a pro for fucking close to twenty years and was in a band from the 80's that influenced CoF and have had face time with Mr. Filth) but stud?

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It's the Butcher! I'm not the only Dread Central personage here anymore! Awesome. Hat

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Also, and sorry but I gots ta call 'em how I see 'em, objectifying a male as a "stud" seems a bit hypocritical ...

As far as Pretty Scary 'Studs of the Month' go, they are a parody. They are meant to be absurd and silly. A lot of the questions the 'contestants' are asked are pretty damned funny, imo.

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Oh thank God! HAHAHAHA that's a relief.

You have to bare with me here and there people, I'm the literal-minded dumkopf who thought the first Onion article I saw (Swedes come to America to bed hot American women) was actually REAL.

*puts hand like gun up to head and pulls trigger*

Thanks Tristan.

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It's a common misunderstanding. Tongue

The guys who agree to the interviews are good sports. They're aware that they're in for goofy questions and caption hyperbole. It's all in good fun.

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Truth be told, Dani Filth was my fault. I pretty much pick the studs, and sometimes it is hard to get one that I actually would, hypothetically, have sex with myself, because attractive, good sports who are involved in horror can be hard to come by! dani had his book coming out that month, and his PR person emailed us asking if he could be stud of the month, and how many female fans he had, etc... so it's my fault. I also had a great stud lined up who didn't have a pressing deadline who could do November, so...

I gotta hand it to some of these guys - Kevin Sorbo, Tom Atkins, Robert Patrick, Michael Pare, ... they were all laughing at the questions and happy to be asked unusual stuff. I think they also get a kick out of imagining women reading the interviews.

Sometimes, though, I wish I had the balls to ask REALLY embarassing stuff, but if the mood isn't right I cop out.

Studs I wish I could get for the site:

Corbin Bernsen
Noah Hathaway
Sean Patrick Flanery
James Roday

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One thing I will say about Dani...he knows his shit as far as the genre.

Corbin Bernsen should be an easy one Heidi.

As for Flannery, well it's common knowledge anyone named Sean is indeed a stud.

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